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ELECTION: DID GOD CHOOSE ME, OR DID I CHOOSE HIM?

Did God elect me before the foundation of the world, based upon His fore-knowledge of my faith and/or works, Or upon His good pleasure, without consideration of my faith or works? Have at it!

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Permalink Reply by Gina on July 15, 2008 at 5:43pm: Both.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Jack on July 15, 2008 at 5:53pm: Gina; Please explain "both". Grace and peace to you, Jack

Gina Mosko said:
Both.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Trent C on July 15, 2008 at 6:02pm: Why in the world would you create this?!

Couldn't you ask what everyone believes instead?!

Bad Jack! Bad!

*Loads his TULIP shotgun*; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Jack on July 15, 2008 at 6:11pm: O.K. Trent, please tell us what you believe. Love to you. Jack

Trent C said:
Why in the world would you create this?!

Couldn't you ask what everyone believes instead?!

Bad Jack! Bad!

*Loads his TULIP shotgun*; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Arthur Thompson on July 15, 2008 at 6:12pm: LADIES AND GENTELMEN!

Tonight’s Main Event features the Calvinist – Arminian tag team cage match smack down. Let the Games Begin!; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Gina on July 15, 2008 at 6:24pm: Assuming you are a Christian, God chose you and you chose Him. There is not opposition between the two premises. If you think there has to be, ask your wife whether she chose you or you chose her.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Jack on July 15, 2008 at 6:31pm: Let me re-state the subject in a more basic way: Did God make His decrees, based upon the fact that He "somehow" knew what would happen in the future, Or
Did God fore-know the future because He had decreed it, and will cause the future to proceed exactly as He had decreed? Which pre-ceeded the other, Fore-knowledge or decree? Was God controlled by knowledge of the future, or is God in control of the future?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Jack on July 15, 2008 at 7:07pm: Gina; My wife chose me and got me married to her while my head was still a'spinnin'.
She knew what was good for me, and still has my head a'spinnin' after 52 years!
Gina Mosko said:
Assuming you are a Christian, God chose you and you chose Him. There is not opposition between the two premises. If you think there has to be, ask your wife whether she chose you or you chose her.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Raquel on July 15, 2008 at 7:10pm: Arthur,
The visual picture in my head for that is AWESOME. Definite beard pulling. I wonder if Calvin takes his hat off when he's ready to rumble? Or maybe they both just throw off their robes (John with his fuzzy necked ones and Jacobus with his weird paper collar thingy)?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Jack on July 15, 2008 at 7:20pm: Raquel; The weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but Might thru God... If I could just get hold of Aaron's Rod... :-) Jack

Raquel said:
Arthur,
The visual picture in my head for that is AWESOME. Definite beard pulling. I wonder if Calvin takes his hat off when he's ready to rumble? Or maybe they both just throw off their robes (John with his fuzzy necked ones and Jacobus with his weird paper collar thingy)?; ▶ Reply to This