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How do Non-Calvinist Protestants view the Image of God?

Do Non-Calvinist Protestants believe that the Image of God in man was destroyed, made unclean etc?
Please tell what tradition you are coming from for example
-non reformed Baptist
-Church of God
-Non-denom
-Evangelical
-something else

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The imago Dei was defaced, but not erased. Genesis 9:6 says, “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.” Also, in James 3:9, “With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God’s likeness.” (NIV both)

I do not really represent any denomination/tradition. When I went into the Air Force I sat under Methodist, Baptist, and Catholic chaplains, so I had to get into the Bible by myself to decide for myself what the truth was. I study orthodox theologians in a continuing effort to know why I believe what I believe, but I never claimed any one tradition. And, I suppose, none of them would ever really want to claim me, either!
Thank you I like you response, I don't know about none of them wanting to claim you though

Michael Cantrell said:
The imago Dei was defaced, but not erased. Genesis 9:6 says, “Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man.” Also, in James 3:9, “With the tongue we praise our Lord and Father, and with it we curse men, who have been made in God’s likeness.” (NIV both)

I do not really represent any denomination/tradition. When I went into the Air Force I sat under Methodist, Baptist, and Catholic chaplains, so I had to get into the Bible by myself to decide for myself what the truth was. I study orthodox theologians in a continuing effort to know why I believe what I believe, but I never claimed any one tradition. And, I suppose, none of them would ever really want to claim me, either!
Hello Jennifer,

You wrote (QUOTE):
"Do Non-Calvinist Protestants believe that the Image of God in man was destroyed, made unclean etc?
Please tell what tradition you are coming from for example
-non reformed Baptist
-Church of God
-Non-denom
-Evangelical
-something else"
(UNQUOTE)

My view of the Image of God and the doctrine of 'Original Sin', and so on, is consistent with Eastern (or Greek) Orthodox. Arminians, such as Arminius himself, and John Wesley, were influenced by the Early Greek Fathers prior to Augustine. Most EOs (Eastern, or Greek Orthodox) see Augustine as a Saint, though EO theology does not agree with his soteriology. That is, on Augustine's beliefs on soteriology, which would later be "revived" by Calvin w/r/t predestination, election and so on. Some EO thinkers are very critical of Augustine along these lines, at least charging him with false teaching. Others, who probably make a more objective evaluation of Augustine "do not fault him entirely." Which is to say that, though Augustine could not read Greek, and based much of his theology on bad (incorrect) translations from the Latin Vulgate -- he also probably had limited access to the earlier consensus of the Church gone before him (since the Early Greek Fathers wrote in Greek, and what with Augustine, being not only unable to read them; he may not have even known of some, or many, of their writings).

EO thought is overall compatible with Arminian thinking, though there are significant differences. However, since Calvinism and Arminianism are Western phenomena; these issues were not prominent in the Eastern Church. Thus, though I am a Protestant; I claim to be EO or "Greek Orthodox" -- but not Arminian -- on these issues.

To answer your inquiry.
EO theology teaches that though the Image of God in humanity has been weakened in a world tainted by sin, and while we live in a world that that is under the penalty of sin -- (that is, death) -- that the Image of God, never the less, remains intact and free.

Thanks!
well I agree for the most part, and it is rare I say that to anyone, so why aren't you EO?

Rick C. said:
Hello Jennifer,
You wrote (QUOTE): "Do Non-Calvinist Protestants believe that the Image of God in man was destroyed, made unclean etc?
Please tell what tradition you are coming from for example
-non reformed Baptist
-Church of God
-Non-denom
-Evangelical
-something else"
(UNQUOTE)

My view of the Image of God and the doctrine of 'Original Sin', and so on, is consistent with Eastern (or Greek) Orthodox. Arminians, such as Arminius himself, and John Wesley, were influenced by the Early Greek Fathers prior to Augustine. Most EOs (Eastern, or Greek Orthodox) see Augustine as a Saint, though EO theology does not agree with his soteriology. That is, on Augustine's beliefs on soteriology, which would later be "revived" by Calvin w/r/t predestination, election and so on. Some EO thinkers are very critical of Augustine along these lines, at least charging him with false teaching. Others, who probably make a more objective evaluation of Augustine "do not fault him entirely." Which is to say that, though Augustine could not read Greek, and based much of his theology on bad (incorrect) translations from the Latin Vulgate -- he also probably had limited access to the earlier consensus of the Church gone before him (since the Early Greek Fathers wrote in Greek, and what with Augustine, being not only unable to read them; he may not have even known of some, or many, of their writings).

EO thought is overall compatible with Arminian thinking, though there are significant differences. However, since Calvinism and Arminianism are Western phenomena; these issues were not prominent in the Eastern Church. Thus, though I am a Protestant; I claim to be EO or "Greek Orthodox" -- but not Arminian -- on these issues.

To answer your inquiry.
EO theology teaches that though the Image of God in humanity has been weakened in a world tainted by sin, and while we live in a world that that is under the penalty of sin -- (that is, death) -- that the Image of God, never the less, remains intact and free.

Thanks!
Jennifer wrote:
"well I agree for the most part, and it is rare I say that to anyone, so why aren't you EO?"

I just think the Eastern Orthodox got this stuff right. Otherwise, I'm Protestant, though somewhat unconventional. E.g., I lean strongly toward N.T. Wright's version of the New Perspective on Paul.

Thanks!
When I was a Roman Catholic, they taught me that "water-baptism washes away the stain of original sin", and then, the baptized one is just like Adam, before he sinned. This meant that one was fully restored into the image (God's) that Adam had, prior to his fall. INO, no left-over problems, from the fall. I do not recall them ever teaching anything about a "sin-nature". Any current catholic can, of course, add their up-date.
I'm a fan of N.T. Wright as well; I am curious what his starting point was for his "new" perspective on Paul.

Rick C. said:
Jennifer wrote:
"well I agree for the most part, and it is rare I say that to anyone, so why aren't you EO?"

I just think the Eastern Orthodox got this stuff right. Otherwise, I'm Protestant, though somewhat unconventional. E.g., I lean strongly toward N.T. Wright's version of the New Perspective on Paul.

Thanks!
Probably E.P. Sanders.

Jennifer said:
I'm a fan of N.T. Wright as well; I am curious what his starting point was for his "new" perspective on Paul.

Rick C. said:
Jennifer wrote:
"well I agree for the most part, and it is rare I say that to anyone, so why aren't you EO?"

I just think the Eastern Orthodox got this stuff right. Otherwise, I'm Protestant, though somewhat unconventional. E.g., I lean strongly toward N.T. Wright's version of the New Perspective on Paul.

Thanks!
well yeah but where did he get it from?

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