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Why did God create us?

The title is the question. Why did God create us?

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Permalink Reply by Carol Jean on October 18, 2009 at 4:20pm: It was not good to be alone.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by xulon on October 18, 2009 at 4:42pm: It seemed like a good idea at the time?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by plumber on October 18, 2009 at 5:00pm: Carol Jean said:
It was not good to be alone.

A possibility but hadn’t angels been created prior to man? I’m not sure but I think that they were. While not created in God’s image to some degree that I don’t know, they did have emotion or some form of choice. I think this because without thought and/or emotion, where would the angelic rebellion have arisen from?

Some form of companionship had already been created. That companionship had provided rebellion.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by plumber on October 18, 2009 at 5:05pm: xulon said:
It seemed like a good idea at the time?

Xulon, Tongue in cheek humor or are you just messing with me?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by xulon on October 18, 2009 at 5:10pm: Are those my only choices?

Okay, tongue in cheek. Since I am unaware of any revealed reason, I thought I'd play a bit.

plumber said:
xulon said:
It seemed like a good idea at the time?

Xulon, Tongue in cheek humor or are you just messing with me?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by plumber on October 18, 2009 at 5:33pm: I can’t find a reason either.

So God created us because He could.

God hated Esau. Why? I can’t find a reason?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by xulon on October 18, 2009 at 5:37pm: Paul notes that God's choice was before they had any chance to do good or evil. He explained that it was not man who chose or who willed, but God who made the choice.; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Apolojedi (Daniel Eaton) on October 18, 2009 at 5:47pm: Had a Sunday School teacher one time that said God created us as an object of His affection. It's as good of an answer as I've heard.
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Permalink Reply by plumber on October 18, 2009 at 5:47pm: xulon said:
Paul notes that God's choice was before they had any chance to do good or evil. He explained that it was not man who chose or who willed, but God who made the choice.

God chose to hate Esau before Esau had sinned? God created Esau's birth so that God could hate him? Esau was predestined to suffer God's hatred?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by joanne guarnieri on October 18, 2009 at 5:47pm: God gives a sort of reason and that is that He loved/loves His people. Anyway, that's as much of an explanation as I've found anywhere -- He is the very embodiment and source of love, and He loved the patriarchs, He loved the descendents of the patriarchs, and He loves all those with whom He is in a love relationship with (totally circular, but that's as good as it gets).

It gets weirder for me to read "for God so loved the world," because the world is full of people who are not His people. But He apparently loves them too. Evidently, according to the apostle Peter, it is not God's desire that any should "perish" (yes, I know there's a whole wrestling match going on between the Arminians and the Calvinists about who "none" are. I say, take the simple reading, no mental gymnastics).

So there you have it. God loved/loves all people and, in the realm that is not under the dominion of time, in the realm of eternity, God brought into being the beings He loved/loves.

And yes, no reason given for God rejecting Esau and choosing Jacob. That's the whole point , I guess, that Paul was trying to make. From the negative aspect, that is. God could have rejected them both, and really they had no hold on God whatsoever, except that they were born of the patriarch Isaac (who turned out to be no peach himself, either). So Paul is saying God chose Jacob, rather than rejecting both babies, because He is a God of comapssion and mercy.

Later on this makes sense when we see that though Jacob was willing to to do whatever it took to get his birthright, he was by no means the picture of perfection. And Esau, in his yup-de-doh way, was not that bad of a guy. Just a rough 'n' ready (though utterly godless) guy who was big hearted, passionate and tried to please his dad. What's not to like?; ▶ Reply to This

Permalink Reply by Apolojedi (Daniel Eaton) on October 18, 2009 at 5:58pm: plumber said:
God chose to hate Esau before Esau had sinned? God created Esau's birth so that God could hate him? Esau was predestined to suffer God's hatred?

Do I smell a fresh can of worms here? LOL
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Permalink Reply by Jack on October 18, 2009 at 5:58pm: Plumber; Was there not companianship within the trinity?

plumber said:
Carol Jean said:
It was not good to be alone.

A possibility but hadn’t angels been created prior to man? I’m not sure but I think that they were. While not created in God’s image to some degree that I don’t know, they did have emotion or some form of choice. I think this because without thought and/or emotion, where would the angelic rebellion have arisen from?

Some form of companionship had already been created. That companionship had provided rebellion.; ▶ Reply to This