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Evidence of Pre Tribulationalist Pre 1800AD

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Evidence of Pre Tribulationalist Pre 1800AD

To give the names for all those pretribulationalists before 1800 AD. Not just pre mellenialists, but provable Pre Tribulationalists, Pre 1800AD

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Pre tribulationalists Before 1800, Not just Premillenialists. Provable pretribers 10 Replies

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Please give all the Names of provable Pre Tribulationalists Pre 1800 AD 1 Reply

Started by Ray Carsjens. Last reply by Dr Denis O'Callaghan Aug. 16, 2008.

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Ray Carsjens Comment by Ray Carsjens on June 24, 2008 at 6:13pm
I just dont understand, can a man have faith with no understanding. Can a man have true faith that He cant prove. Is there any one that can give a simple interpretation of Matt 10:23, 16:28 , 26:64.
DR Mike said that they are easy to answer and yet will give no answer. This is open to all Dispensationalists. Can you give an answer for the faith that lays within you? Could you explain these scriptures to me if I wasnt a Christian yet?
Thanks RC
Ray Carsjens Comment by Ray Carsjens on June 20, 2008 at 7:54pm
Well Dr Mike its obvious that the evidence is not out there. And you havent even answered Questions about Matt 10:23, 16:28, 26:64, Which you claimed were easy. I just would like people to know that the Church never Believed this dispensationalism doctrine, and that the Churches View for 2000 yrs is totally provable with History and scripture. We dont have to become subject to doctrines of men or Devils. The truth sets us free, and dosent set us up to be subject to any man.
Now think about this, since there are no witnesses for 1827 yrs of Dispensationalism, what are you listening too? Did you know that Revelation was wrtten before 70 AD. Not 90 AD. Dose that change anything, absolutley it does. Your listening to a doctrine that was fabricated in 1827, the facts are out there. It cant be new Revelation as they say because that makes everything subjectable to them. The only people who profess New Revelation are Heretics that call them selves Apostles and Prophets in these days.
Look I was a dispensationalist for 25 years until I started seeing the Falacies of Pre Trib doctrine. Want to know what the Church Believed for 2 thousand years, you would be surprised. No Dispensationalists have answered the questions concerning Matt 10:23, 16:28 or Matt 26:64 because they cant give an answer to something that contradicts their view. In Matt 24 is there a differance between Christs coming and the sign of His coming. They say that they are the same thing. Matt discloses in 24:3 and vs 30 the sign of His coming, it isnt His return just the Sign of His coming. The Disciples and Jesus were talking about that Temple that was in front of them, not a future Temple. And it indeed fell and no stones were atop one another. rcscrolls@aol.com
 

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