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And yes I am totally spelling it paedo- rather than pedo- to give an air of pseudo-sophistication. ;-)
(Like saying auGUStin instead of AUgusteen.)
Fair enough. I too have adopted paedobaptism, having originally come from the Baptist tradition. It is a hot topic within my family as well, perhaps why I get so touchy about it.
My mother refuses to accept my infant baptism as valid and I refer to…
But covenant theology is in itself a particular construct through which Biblical passages are made to be sifted.
Right. Per the covenant perspective. This particular question was following an earlier statement about infants perhaps believing. I don't think paedobaptists baptize paedes because they think they are believers... (pedocredobaptist?)
Not "just..." My best pal from eons past has transmogrified into a Presbyterian, including paedobaptism...having come from good Baptist stock (His brother is one of the best known Baptist pastors in the nation). So we've had this (ahem) dialogue goi…
From a covenantal theology perspective the question is not do all infants have belief. The baptism of infants is based on God's action or initiative, nor man's.
Al
I personally believe it falls between those two. It is not a confessional, or salvific issue. It is also not a minor point. Baptism (as agreed by both paedo-baptists and Baptists) is the rite of initiation into the church. We do well to understand i…
Is there biblical basis for the position that the new covenant has fulfilled all that went before it? Does that mean, for example, that the covenant with Noah is fulfilled, has ceased, and we are vulnerable to a global deluge again?
Al
Al,
You are correct in affirming that the New Covenant replaced the Mosaic Covenant rather the Abrahamic Covenant. Rom 4, however states that it is through faith that one becomes a child of Abraham and Rom 11states that unbelief cuts one off from th…
It seems to me that when God established circumcision, a part of the Abrahamic covenant, He made a Very Big Deal about it. All males, from 8 days up. Nobody could be exempt, not even servants and mercenaries of the household. Everybody.
The focal p…
So, in other words, you just like pushing our buttons ;)
Ser,
(ahem) I didn't suggest that you shouldn't discuss theology. What I did ask, though, was if ya'll believe it's a salvific issue or not.
I come from a Presby background, 'member? We trust the parents to decide.
My attempt is to understand where…
[scratching head, contemplating relevance]
[simultaneously, musing renal-attentively over the Latin origin of "credo" and the Greek origin of "baptist"]
'With the Heart. Saving faith is not mere intellectual agreement but deep inward trust in Christ at the core of one's being.'
Not a lot to ask at all, Ser. Infants do it with other persons every day.
Marv, in light of the historical reality of Pro…
Yeeeeeah,
Well, the question would not be whether some infants have belief, but whether all infants who are baptized have belief. We start with extremely doubtful and move down from there.
If we adopt a don't-ask-don't-tell policy we could baptize…
Thre was a statement in the OP that said "only believers are to receive baptism." I'm looking for proof that infants do not have belief and thus should not be baptized.
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- John Calvin
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