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Found true love, married her young.
Five kids, six cars, seven computers.
Home school for my five children
Will do math / physics for food.
Prefer equations three pages or longer.
Second Coming? Been there. Done that.
The whole land, not whole planet.

How would you describe yourself theologically?

Radical Conservative, Christian Church/Church of Christ.
I wrote the book on Covenant Creation.

Who is the greatest theologian in the last 2000 years? (Besides Biblical People!)

Milton Terry, Biblical Hermeneutics, and Biblical Apocalyptics

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http://BeyondCreationScience.com

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What else is AiG not telling you?

AiG is doing a new series, Charles Spurgeon - Reloaded.

By their words

Answers in Genesis and Larry Pierce... want to give Spurgeon’s sermons new life. ... Larry and his wife were able to update these sermons, not to change the meaning, but to make them more easily understood by modern readers.

I was wondering what they would do when they got to Spurgeon's Sermon, The P… Continue

Posted on February 26, 2009 at 5:35pm — 7 Comments

Covenant Creation Conference

All,

The first (hopefully annual) Covenant Creation Conference will be Thursday, May 14th, in Beavercreek, Ohio.

It will be held in conjunction with the annual TruthVoice Conference (May 15th-16th).

Old Earth Creationist author Don Stoner will be our keynote speaker.

Please click here for more details.

Hope to see you all there.

Blessings,

JL Vaughn
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Posted on February 17, 2009 at 3:30pm —

The Beginning of the End

Some of you know, Oct. a year ago, my mother-in-law was diagnosed with stage 4, inoperable pancreatic cancer. The radiation and chemo-therapy worked well, but not quite well enough. This past week, symptom-wise, she took a dramatic turn for the worse.

Posted on November 30, 2008 at 8:29pm — 7 Comments

End-times 101

What is the clearest most straight-forward, unambiguous end-times prophecy?

My vote?

Jesus came out from the temple and was going away when His disciples came up to point out the temple buildings to Him. And He said to them, "Do you not see all these things? Truly I say to you, not one stone here will be left upon another, which will not be torn down." (Matt. 24:1-2)

As he was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, "Look, Teacher! What massi

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Posted on November 18, 2008 at 5:00pm — 39 Comments

A Woman Wrote the Gospel of Matthew

As the Christmas season approaches, it is time to dust off the family Bible and refamiliarize ourselves with the Christmas stories in the Gospels of Matthew and Luke.

I'd like to point out some details about the story in Matthew that appear to have escaped many people's attention over the years. Chapter 2 of Matthew's Gospel starts

Now when Jesus was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king, behold, there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, Saying, Where is he

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Posted on November 11, 2008 at 11:15pm — 9 Comments

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At 9:57am on October 21, 2009, Jason said…: JL,
Very busy here. I understand being busy.
I'm over loaded.

At 8:05pm on October 20, 2009, Brian Simmons said…: Hey, JL. Good to see you again!

wink, wink.

At 2:03pm on October 20, 2009, plumber said…: They fly over my house on approach to the stadium, I wasn't at the game but I know when kick off is! Worked on the Volvo dealership, auto circle maybe McFadden and Newport fwy? Stayed at motel next to Denny's just south on I-5 for week at a time. Loved Hungry Hunter @ Leisure Village off ramp each Friday. I live in La Mesa next to San Diego. Small world.

At 12:25am on August 14, 2009, Char said…: JL, where you been?? Hope all is well.

At 6:49pm on June 6, 2009, Jason said…: Hello there.
Missing you around here.
Of course, real life gets in the way. It does with me......
Never the less, I enjoy talking with you when you're around.
I appreciate your gracious spirit.

At 10:40am on May 4, 2009, Char said…: JL! Your preterist beacon must be broken! There's a scrap going on and you're missing it!

At 10:40pm on January 19, 2009, Mike Gabriel said…: Thanks for relenting, JL. It's not as though I'm not interested in the subject; I'm actually much more interested in talking to you about other things. I was getting flabergasted by this topic because you're telling me things that I haven't actually heard before, and what I do know makes me not want to get into those things right now. Basically, I don't have enough information to discuss it with you, and I'really rather get the resources that you recommend and look into it at my leisure.

I am, though, interested in talking to you a bit more about your "eschatology" (for lack of a better term). I also noticed that you're involved with the Church of Christ, and was curious as to what you teach there about the Gospel and who Jesus is. I was actually asked a couple years ago to come meet with a Church of Christ (I think they were called "en Eglesia") with a friend who was being tempted to join up, and I was actually asked to come and defend the doctrine of the Trinity (more specifically, the deity of Christ) against these people. How does your view of Jesus compare with theirs? Do you believe in baptismal regeneration? Do you believe that someone needs to be baptized more than once based on the sin in his/her life?

Some of these questions come from an ignorance based on what I've heard and would like to confirm/have denied. The other is because I am still learning about Preterism and would like to have a more full explanation from you.

Is that a fair trade?

At 9:24pm on January 18, 2009, Mike Gabriel said…: I just read your more recent comment, JL, and I'll ask him (though he probably won't remember the conversation all too clearly--not necessarily because he's old, but because he has much more to be thinking about). I don't plan to get too much more into this, though, but since I don't want your pride to be damaged I'll do this one last thing for you.

At 9:21pm on January 18, 2009, Mike Gabriel said…: If I have "change, twist, and misinterpret every statement [have made]" it was not intentional, I assure you. I apologize if I have done that, and if I asked my professor a question about something you actually didn't say then I should've been more careful. I'll have to take a look at what you wrote before.

Those things aside, the fact remains that there are far too many variables to make a conclusive decision about which author wrote what book based on internal evidence. I can't remember, did you say that John didn't write either his Gospel or the Revelation?

And, again, Paul's grammar is not a reliable source for making conclusive decisions either. You seem to be familiar with textual studies, so what makes you think that you can make conclusive statements based on conjecture? Paul used an amanuensis for writing his epistles, and the fact that scribes over the years would have been familiar with Paul's writings in the epistles they were familiar with likely would have given them reason to adapt the ones they were copying to match the grammar in those others. This tendency has also been recognized by Greek scholars.

Please, JL, I don't see this as a very profitable discussion. I don't know as much as I need to know to really answer the questions you have for me; though I plan to read and study more in the future. I'm more interested in talking about the Gospel or maybe even your eschatalogical view (or lack thereof).

At 2:04am on January 17, 2009, Mike Gabriel said…: Since I mentioned the response on your wall, I'll post it to your wall. I didn't bother adding anything new since I last mentioned it to you, but I think it's enough to keep us moving:

Well, JL, if most commentators agree that John’s Gospel was written in much better Greek than the Greek in Revelation, it may be because of the something else that most commentators agree on—John’s Greek was bad. If you couple this with the fact that John was all by himself in exile on the island of Patmos when he wrote Revelation and the fact that he would have used an amanuensis when he dictated his Gospel, then you have one good possibility. I say possibility because we can’t be sure about things like this because we don’t have any clear proof one way or the other. Are you aware of any manuscripts that I'm not?

I was actually unaware of these supposed problems with John’s writings until you brought them up. I have heard of some claims to Aramaic authorship of Matthew and an even less reliable source claiming that Acts was written in Aramaic, but I have never heard about John’s writing having been written in anything other than Greek. It actually seems quite odd that someone would have claimed this especially because of John’s explanation of an Aramaic word for Greek readers if it was written in Aramaic (He brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, “’So you are Simon the son of John? You shall be called Cephas’ (which means Peter)” (Joh 1:42 ESV).

By the way, you mention the “puns and word plays in the Aramaic versions.” Are you referring to the original writings or the modern translations?

My question for you is, why are you making this an issue?

As far as your questions about Paul’s epistles, he wouldn’t have been writing his own letters either. Many scholars and commentators would agree that Paul suffered from bad eyesight since his encounter with Christ which would’ve made writing his own letters an unnecessary difficulty when he had others who were glad to write them in his behalf.

I just asked my historical theology professor about your claims, and he confirmed to me that there is a debate about the original language used for the Gospels, but he said that it is “malarkey” (I like that word. Haha) for you to claim that Paul’s epistles have been without variation. Like I said before, he used an amanuensis to write his epistles, and they may have had different writing styles.