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Ralph replied to Ralph's discussion 'Need Help Understanding Verbal Plenary'

Paul speaks off of many of his personal experinces, Luke said he investigated, "compile an account" NASU, things like that show the actions of the writer.

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David Zierenberg replied to Ralph's discussion 'Need Help Understanding Verbal Plenary'

OK, if we say it is evident in the writings themselves, what is that evidence? Also, I want to elaborate on my point about "God-breathed." If Paul was going to coin a term, he could have coined "God-spoken," but he didn't. So what's the differenc...

5 hours ago

Ralph replied to Ralph's discussion 'Need Help Understanding Verbal Plenary'

It seems to me the biggest reason to accept inspiration as verbal plenary is that its evident in their writtings. I don't think we can say that the Scriptures support this position conclusively, but are quiet about the process? Ralph

8 hours ago

David Zierenberg replied to Ralph's discussion 'Need Help Understanding Verbal Plenary'

I covered that early on in this discussion, Jack. That verse can be used to argue for "plenary," but says nothing about "every word." "God-breathed" does not necessarily mean "words." Do you say words every time you breathe? As I have said, Paul d...

15 hours ago

Jack replied to Ralph's discussion 'Need Help Understanding Verbal Plenary'

David; "verbal inspiration" is revealed this way in the bible: "all scripture is inspired by God..." Lets examine that claim : " All scripture (Graphe) that which is written down; is inspired by God One word in the greek Theopneustos=is breathed o...

16 hours ago

David Zierenberg replied to Ralph's discussion 'Need Help Understanding Verbal Plenary'

I don't think a "no error" stand means "no human element". No, that's not what I'm saying. I don't think a human element requires error. It's possible for humans to be inerrant, just not consistently. If I say "I posted a reply to Ralph's thread,...

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xulon replied to Ralph's discussion 'Need Help Understanding Verbal Plenary'

I agree that if Paul says, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, that he is giving his opinion (advice) then it is opinion, not divine command masquerading as "opinion". But concerning the section I quoted, I believe that when I am reading th...

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David Zierenberg replied to Ralph's discussion 'Need Help Understanding Verbal Plenary'

Some will disagree, but I think Paul identifies some of his own human input in 1 Cor 7:7 - a personal wish, verse 12 - a command from Paul himself, with a disclaimer that it's not from the Lord and verse 40, where he states that he is offering his...

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