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PowerPoint Sample of the Presentation "Observations of Moses".

There is an older version of the PowerPoint Presentation, called the "Observations of Moses", at the following site: http://www.authorstream.com/Presentation/hzcummi-1075826-observatio...

It is the first 12 minutes of the 62 minute presentation.  The part that you would see exposes current Creationism to be false, and unbiblical.  The remaining disproves the (false) conclusions of science, and reveals the true rendition of Genesis chapter one.  It is the only valid opposing view to the evolution theory.

Herman

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Tags: Genesis, Moses, Observations, bang, big, creationism, evolution, of, theory

Comment by E. A. Johnston on September 27, 2012 at 4:06am

Have you found some exegetical reason to add the words, In the beginning of our environment" in slide 11/56? Don't want to be a nay-sayer, but this looks like eisogesis. 

You asked, "In terms of earth years, how old is God?" (21/56 and 29/56). Prior to creation, there was no time, only eternity. God created time for man. It is fallacious to count years—even eons of them—in relationship to God. (29/56)

In response to the query on slide (54/56): The “evening and the morning” is typical of a Jewish representation of a normal day. 

If the rest of your PowerPoint is more of the same, I think your thesis is in serious trouble. 

Comment by Herman Cummings on September 27, 2012 at 6:33pm

Hi E. A. Johnson:

You are missing the point.  Are you doing so on purpose?  You think this universe is God's "only" creation?  Why did the Jews adapt the evening as as the beginning of the day?  You sound like someone that wants to remain at an elementary level.

Comment by E. A. Johnston on September 27, 2012 at 6:40pm

That does not answer anything. Perhaps you overlooked my question. 

Have you found some exegetical reason to add the words, In the beginning of our environment" in slide 11/56? Don't want to be a nay-sayer, but this looks like eisogesis. 

And you did not address this:

You asked, "In terms of earth years, how old is God?" (21/56 and 29/56). Prior to creation, there was no time, only eternity. God created time for man. It is fallacious to count years—even eons of them—in relationship to God. (29/56)

Comment by Daniel on September 27, 2012 at 8:03pm

Herman, the reason we keep missing your point is because they don't make sense without some kind of context.  Just repeating them or showing them to us on a slide does not EXPLAIN them.  And that is why we ask the questions.   You are presenting something that you admit is new and unique and something that we all don't know, but when we ask questions to help us understand how you get to your conclusions, you avoid answering.  Frankly, it comes across as if you don't really WANT the rest of us to understand what you alone seem to have figured out.

Comment by Herman Cummings on September 27, 2012 at 8:47pm

To EA Johnson:

Genesis 1:1 starts off with “In the beginning….”.  Before going any further, it stands to reason to ask the question “The beginning of what?”.  Is it the beginning of all existence, God’s existence, or just our physical plane or dimension?  I answer that question in the context of what was being revealed to Moses.  I define what our environment entails, and use it as an interim vehicle to reach the final point of understanding of the first verse.  It is the geologist’s call to make concerning the age of the physical material that we can analyze.  God gave mankind a measure of intelligence, to use to learn of the work of God’s hand.  Therefore, the first verse is fully explained with the designated time period given a definite value.  So, when our turn finally came, 4.6 billion years ago, God created our universe, starting with the planet Earth.  That means that Earth was the first celestial object that was created in this expanse of space.   I hope you don’t require an explanation of the SOL. 

 

As far as your second question, your assumption is invalid.  God did many things before He decided to create our universe.  It’s just that ours is the only creation of His that “went bad”, because of Lucifer.  However, that is covered in the presentation called “The Origin of Satan”.  It is juvenile to assume continuance of existence stands still outside of our universe.

To Daniel:  You have eyes, but can not see.  You have ears, but refuse to listen.

The truth is, that God was showing Moses six different days (and told him about the 7th) from
the past.  One day, from seven different weeks.  You know of the 70 weeks of Daniel?  Well Genesis
is seven weeks of Moses, each week from a different time period.

The days (weeks) were not revealed in chronological order.  That is why they don't "make sense". 
The seven days are actually the first revelation of Jesus Christ in the Bible.  But that is Theology 501.

What is "lower level" is that the days were given in a particular order that reveals the nature of Jesus.
So forget Creationism  It misrepresents the scriptures.  Genesis does not have any "creation accounts".  That is found in Exodus 20:11.  The only day of Creation Week found in Genesis chapter one is the Fourth Day.  The other days were from subsequent restoration weeks.  That is why there are "gaps" in the fossil record.

Comment by Daniel on September 27, 2012 at 9:03pm

You seem to face a lot of folks that you believe to be deaf to your message.  Perhaps it is the messenger?  As I used to tell my brother when he thought the whole world was against him, if everyone else appears upside-down, perhaps it is you that are standing on your head.

Comment by David Armstrong on September 27, 2012 at 10:10pm

Herman,

I can guarantee everyone here is willing to converse with you. Even if they disagree with you, they're more than willing to at least hear you out. But coming onto this site guns blazing accusing people of being deaf and blind to God, of being spiritually unenlightened for not hearing your message, is the wrong thing to do.

Consider that the New Testament calls you to be gentle and respectful (1 Peter 3:15) when relating anything, much more something you believe to be true.

Comment by David Armstrong on September 27, 2012 at 10:18pm

"The worlds of creationism and theology have failed mankind."

Herman, any statement you make about God--any claim you make whatsoever--is theology.

Comment by john welch on September 28, 2012 at 7:04am

Well I'm with him all the way. Go Herman. It's starting to come together.

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